Media lies lies lies
Will the US help the Georgian government bring home troops from Iraq?Just to highlight the sensitive nature of our media's complete and utter bull shit that it spews out on a daily basis it is worth considering what the true meaning behind this bloody battle is about:
U.S. tells Russia to pull forces out of Georgia
Fri Aug 8, 2008 5:36pm EDT
By Susan Cornwell and Sue Pleming
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States told Russia on Friday to withdraw its forces from U.S. ally Georgia and stop its air attacks on the tiny Caucasus state following fighting in the breakaway region of South Ossetia.
"We call on Russia to cease attacks on Georgia by aircraft and missiles, respect Georgia's territorial integrity, and withdraw its ground combat forces from Georgian soil," U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said in a statement.
Rice issued her statement as Georgia, a former Soviet state that now wants to join NATO, said it would declare martial law as it battled to get control of the rebel enclave, which was backed by Russian forces.
Both Rice and the White House urged an immediate cease-fire in South Ossetia, and U.S. officials said they would send an envoy to the region to help mediate.
As fighting raged in and around the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali, Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili said Russia and Georgia were at war.
Rice said the United States was working actively with its European partners to launch international mediation, and "we urgently seek Russia's support of these efforts."
Diplomatic sources said the U.S. envoy would be Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for European and Eurasian Affairs, Matthew Bryza, who is expected to join a mission that includes the European Union and the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe.
Georgia is at the center of a battle for influence between the United States and Russia in the Caucasus."
This is here : http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSN0850115420080808
Some responces to this from real people, some of which live closer and know more than we do about it:
"Monstrous lie! It's Artificial an information war against Russia. The war began with the invasion of Georgian military!"
alex, London
"Western news makers have taken Georgian Side(by Georgian Army have been killed almost 2 000 civilians in Tskhinvali and numbers will increase) which have broken peace just before the Olympic Game.
What you see on TV is Georgian troops which a policy maker stated as Russian because is easy to blame, because you the don’t see any difference between and you are easy to manipulate.
Don’t believe what you see, read between lines
Evil has to land to knell you"
Alan, Tskhinvali
There is a lot more of this here: http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=5212&edition=1&ttl=20080808234304
But here are a few more anyway as it becomes impossible to find these articles later:
"Might is Right!"
Isn't that the way humans have behaved for eons? The West or anyone else for that matter have NO right to judge & state whether Russia is right or wrong! After the recognition of Kosovo the precedent HAS been set. If South Ossetia becomes independent then that will be the way it is because that's the way the world (unfortunately) works.
At the cost of being repetitive NO COUNTRY can claim a 'Holier Than Thou' attitude. Many countries had imperialist pasts!
Who is pure?
[MaxMaxmilianMaximusI], Indian Caesar in, Singapore
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| Added: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 11:12 GMT 12:12 UK The Georgians start war when Anatoly Kondra, Moscow, Russia |
| Added: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 12:18 GMT 13:18 UK "So Russia totally opposes the creation of an indepedent Kosova as being illegal, but backs the creation of an independent South Ossetia" JL, London |
| Added: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 12:48 GMT 13:48 UK Kosovo tries to secede from Serbia - Serbia tries to stop it - NATO rolls in with blazing tomahawks and planes to stop it. Marko, Belgrade |
| Added: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 17:41 GMT 18:41 UK If the US, EU and NATO were so quick to recognise Kosovo's independence they should as well recognise South Ossetia's independence. Something tells me they will not! Is is because Russia is involved? Hypocrits! Constantinos, Nicosia |
| Added: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 17:33 GMT 18:33 UK The Russian peacemakers in South Ossetia have the mandate of the United Nations. They were shot with the Georgian armies. Why nobody speaks about it? Elena Solovey, Tbilisi, Georgia |
| Added: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 17:35 GMT 18:35 UK How can you justify the fact that Georgia used heavy artillery to bombard South Ossetia, killing more than a thousand civilians [1] and destroying the buildings? Do you really expect Russia to not do a thing when the civilians that were killed were actually citizens of the Russian Federation (not to mention the russian peacekeepers)? Serge M., Lithuania |
| Added: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 12:47 GMT 13:47 UK Calm down, my russian friends. nicolas, brussels |
| Added: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 12:50 GMT 13:50 UK "When the first Russian peace keeper will be hurt, Moscow will retaliate and Georgia will realize that Ossetia and Abkhazia are loss forever." IF, Moscow |
| Added: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 11:16 GMT 12:16 UK The recent history of Georgia is full of violence. Since the break up of the Soviet Union they fought endless wars: first the civil war, war in Abkhazia, war in South Osetia, don't forget the Pankisi Gorge and then the new revolution. Quite a lot for a small country! The 'beacon of democracy' is not shining attractive enough for prople to come and join it. I am afraid that the country is doomed to be an unhappy banana republic of the same level as Honduras, Guatemala, Kosovo and many others... Vodkin, Moscow |
| Added: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 11:06 GMT 12:06 UK South Ossetia has just been attacked. Georgia has delaclared war and shelled the SO capital. In the city there are civilians who are being killed by the shells. What kind of question is "Can South Osetia find peace"? Its not like they have lost the peace "oops where did I drop it?". There is a war now and peace will come after the war, unless international community does something to stop Georgia from attacking its neighbour. Hopefull Russia will put money where its mouth is and sends troops. IF, Russia |
| Added: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 17:45 GMT 18:45 UK I am increasingly concerned at the attitude of the EU. Tony Curtis, Nottingham |
| Added: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 11:38 GMT 12:38 UK I lived in Georgia for 4 years and I think I understand the conflict better than most Brian McFarlane, New York City |
Added: Friday, 8 August, 2008, 11:08 GMT 12:08 UK
Can a peaceful solution be found?
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I dont think so. Diplomacy proved to be useless, now army should act! Saakashvili acted like Hitler, first stating that Georgia wants peace and 3 hours later attacking sleeping civilians at the eve of Olympic Games. In my opinion, Russia should do something to protect its citizens (most of them have russian passports), but it does absolutely nothing!! In 1999 we betrayed Serbs and now we do the same with Ossetians.
sanek, moscow, russia
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Thank you soo so much Reuters and many other media companies for finally being so bold as to show your true colours !! :D
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